Hello Dell « Scobleizer – Tech Geek Blogger

Below are comments from a John C. Welch on Scoble’s post, and my reply to it. It is amazing the tactics that people use to express their ideas, thoughts, and rantings.

There is an old saying that you can ague againist anything, and John is certainly an example.

The problem with this type of ranting and response, is there is no way to finish it. I beleive that John has good points, but his personal attacks and debating method dimishes his message and does not allow a civilized converstation.

John has a blog of his own, and has ranted about several things, my favorite is what Ohio is doing, however, it is lost in the ranting.

I decided to finish that flaming on Roberts blog and continue here on this blog.

John you are invited to continue this discussion here, I know that my blog does not have the readership that Roberts has, as an answer to our questions:

If no one reads a blog, then does anyone really care about it?

Yes, again do a Google search, you will find blogs.

You have links to the raw data and details on the collection methodology? Not seeing them on the site. Oh, and it’s https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/index.html, not cia.org, by the way.

On the Missoion statement :

The Pew Internet & American Life Project produces reports that explore the impact of the Internet on families, communities, work and home, daily life, education, health care, and civic and political life. The Project aims to be an authoritative source on the evolution of the Internet through collection of data and analysis of real-world developments as they affect the virtual world.

The basis of the reports are nationwide random digit dial telephone surveys as well as online surveys. This data collection is supplemented with research from government agencies, academia, and other expert venues; observations of what people do and how they behave when they are online; in-depth interviews with Internet users and Internet experts alike; and other efforts that try to examine individual and group behavior. The Project releases 15-20 pieces of research a year, varying in size, scope, and ambition.

Quoted from their mission page: http://www.pewinternet.org/about_mission.asp

 

And thanks for the correction again, I will have to put more energy into this rant discussion.

  • John I am curious, is blogging a toy or a tool, you mentioned twice in this post that blogging is a tool (a PR tool) and you state that it is a toy for the connected.
    As far as using facts go, I use the CIA’s World Fact Book and it states that a little over 15% of the world is connected (2005 figures).

    Don’t be so binary. It’s both of course.

    My opinion is that if you have a computer, chances are pretty good that you will have an internet connection.

    It’s my opinion that most people are too stupid to live, but that’s meaningless too. The plural of speculation is not data.

    If you do a Google search you will find several blogs, for instance, search Sears Sucks, you will find 396,000 results. Now I did not count them all, but my opinion is that a very large portion will be coming from blogs of z-listers.

    If no one reads a blog, then does anyone really care about it?

    Again, the whole point of a conversation as Robert describes it, is to remove the barricades from between the consumer and the producer. If you can tell the VP of operation of Dell that you have a problem, and you show this statement on a media that people will find with a simple search, you are going to get results.

    See, you were doing good, and then you started hitting the blogpipe. You don’t know who you’re talking *directly* to at Dell. The comments to posts may EVENTUALLY end up in a VP’s hands, or they may get a precis/digest of the comments. I also don’t see ol’ Lionel’s email address in the post, or anywhere on the site. In fact, there’s no actual email address, just a “suggestion box”.

    So other than blog comments, there’s no “conversation”, just a “lecture”. There’s no one you can directly contact. How is that ANY better than the feedback email addresses on Apple’s site. Oh wait, you can COMMENT IN A BLOG. Damn, you’re right, that’s like being IN THEIR OFFICE.

    Wait, no it isn’t, it’s a PR manipulation for people with more blog religion than sense.

    Podesta, thanks for the new source, the only problem I see with it is that it appears to be based on surveys, not facts. Use CIA.org and look for the World Fact Book, it is updated regularly be people that actually count and investigate in the field.

    Really.

    You have links to the raw data and details on the collection methodology? Not seeing them on the site. Oh, and it’s https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/index.html, not cia.org, by the way.

    Comment by John C. Welch — January 5, 2007 @ 10:14 pm

  • John C. Welch,

    It’s my opinion that most people are too stupid to live, but that’s meaningless too. The plural of speculation is not data.

    I guess that says it all

    Guy

    Comment by Guy Pelletier — January 6, 2007 @ 9:06 am

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    ~ by Guy Pelletier on January 6, 2007.

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